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		<title>Comment on rethinking my chapter title by eac</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/rethinking-my-chapter-title/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>eac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that article was premature... apparently speculating about demise is more fun for many bloggers, both professional and amateur. My main concern is the idea that if/when the volume is published, my chapter will date itself and not be deemed valuable in terms of scholarship and innovative technologies.

I am in a frenzy of late and would hate for my tenure application to go through the various approval committees and then have someone say "Ah, twitter? what a waste of time. that platform is gone!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that article was premature&#8230; apparently speculating about demise is more fun for many bloggers, both professional and amateur. My main concern is the idea that if/when the volume is published, my chapter will date itself and not be deemed valuable in terms of scholarship and innovative technologies.</p>
<p>I am in a frenzy of late and would hate for my tenure application to go through the various approval committees and then have someone say &#8220;Ah, twitter? what a waste of time. that platform is gone!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on is social media really an &#8220;us&#8221; vs. &#8220;them&#8221;? by Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/is-social-media-really-an-us-vs-them/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Maciak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Btw, who/what got you on twitter?

I think the one word answer is hype. One day I woke up, pulled up Google Reader and saw that almost every single tech related blog I subscribe to was going on about twitter. So I signed up. :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Btw, who/what got you on twitter?</p>
<p>I think the one word answer is hype. One day I woke up, pulled up Google Reader and saw that almost every single tech related blog I subscribe to was going on about twitter. So I signed up. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on rethinking my chapter title by fivehusbands</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/rethinking-my-chapter-title/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator>fivehusbands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree microblogging as the catchall is a good idea but given the past week I think the speculation on Twitter's demise was a tad premature.  It is all about volume of users and Twitter is already there - they just need to keep it running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree microblogging as the catchall is a good idea but given the past week I think the speculation on Twitter&#8217;s demise was a tad premature.  It is all about volume of users and Twitter is already there - they just need to keep it running.</p>
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		<title>Comment on rethinking my chapter title by eac</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/rethinking-my-chapter-title/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>eac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Michael! very logical and I will definitely take your advice. And will quote you too ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Michael! very logical and I will definitely take your advice. And will quote you too <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on rethinking my chapter title by Michael Heller</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/rethinking-my-chapter-title/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Heller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think using microblogging as the catchall with Twitter as the example of a microblogging tool is a wise move. I would include something about how these tools are never static in nature, but rather constantly developed (and sometimes unstable! :-). The development can be by the original tools' "owner" or derivative/iterative/evolutionary (did Plurk come about on its own or was it another way to do Twittering?).   You can even add how they sometimes get gobbled up (think YouTube acquired by Google).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think using microblogging as the catchall with Twitter as the example of a microblogging tool is a wise move. I would include something about how these tools are never static in nature, but rather constantly developed (and sometimes unstable! :-). The development can be by the original tools&#8217; &#8220;owner&#8221; or derivative/iterative/evolutionary (did Plurk come about on its own or was it another way to do Twittering?).   You can even add how they sometimes get gobbled up (think YouTube acquired by Google).</p>
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		<title>Comment on is social media really an &#8220;us&#8221; vs. &#8220;them&#8221;? by eac</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/is-social-media-really-an-us-vs-them/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>eac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you EPORIA for your insight. Limiting online relationships seems to contradict the concept of social media and networking.

Ah, LUKE, perhaps you are too young to not see it as an age thing. Some of the interesting comments about Plurk, since you mentioned it, is that it is "twitter for teens". Just like everything in society, Web 2.0 does create prejudices and stereotypes according to age. It doesn't outrightly promote ageism, but contributes to it because of its users (or lack of users, as in my friends). 

I do strongly agree with you that you can bring a horse to water but can't make it drink. Only 1 student from my twitter experiment still tweets in Italian now that the semester is over. The other 19, not at all. Also, my friends think my research is "interesting" but very few of them have actually created an account or even read my blog (hmmm....maybe I should drop them ;) )

There have been many posts recently about how these social sites are self-perpetuating (used by technology enthusiasts, touted by them as the second coming) and then remain trapped by not making it into the common market. The question always becomes, well, then, how effective are these tools if the user pool is so limited? And of course, how many different renditions of the same product can we actually have until they are all deemed useless?

People tune you out? I can't believe that...not you! Welcome to the club, I guess. Yes, the power of our peers very often exceeds the power of those in the know. Btw, who/what got you on twitter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you EPORIA for your insight. Limiting online relationships seems to contradict the concept of social media and networking.</p>
<p>Ah, LUKE, perhaps you are too young to not see it as an age thing. Some of the interesting comments about Plurk, since you mentioned it, is that it is &#8220;twitter for teens&#8221;. Just like everything in society, Web 2.0 does create prejudices and stereotypes according to age. It doesn&#8217;t outrightly promote ageism, but contributes to it because of its users (or lack of users, as in my friends). </p>
<p>I do strongly agree with you that you can bring a horse to water but can&#8217;t make it drink. Only 1 student from my twitter experiment still tweets in Italian now that the semester is over. The other 19, not at all. Also, my friends think my research is &#8220;interesting&#8221; but very few of them have actually created an account or even read my blog (hmmm&#8230;.maybe I should drop them <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>There have been many posts recently about how these social sites are self-perpetuating (used by technology enthusiasts, touted by them as the second coming) and then remain trapped by not making it into the common market. The question always becomes, well, then, how effective are these tools if the user pool is so limited? And of course, how many different renditions of the same product can we actually have until they are all deemed useless?</p>
<p>People tune you out? I can&#8217;t believe that&#8230;not you! Welcome to the club, I guess. Yes, the power of our peers very often exceeds the power of those in the know. Btw, who/what got you on twitter?</p>
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		<title>Comment on is social media really an &#8220;us&#8221; vs. &#8220;them&#8221;? by Luke Maciak</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/is-social-media-really-an-us-vs-them/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Maciak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually a very interesting question. But I don't think this is an age thing. Every semester I mention Twitter in my CMPT 109 class and meet a sea of blank stares. They are completely uninterested.

Ever since Twitter came out, I have been trying to get my brother (4 years younger) and my cousin (2 years older) into it. I send them invitations every once in a while and mention it often, but they just don't seem to be interested at all. They are more into Facebook and/or Myspace and that's where they have their "communities". In fact, my cousin only joined Facebook last year or so - after it was open to general public for a while and built critical mass of contacts.

Here is an interesting case study - a Polish Facebook clone nasza-klasa.pl is extremely popular amongst the 40+ crowd for some reason. Several of my family members (aunts, uncles, etc..) were on that network long before I joined it, and those who were not, were talking about it. That network seems to have built a critical mass of members in that age group and suddenly became very attractive to them - allowing older people rekindle old high-school friendships, find former co-workers and etc. They are not using it to keep track of their kids, but rather to build their own social networks, share pictures and etc.

Why parents you talked about don't care about Myspace? I guess they don't see it's value - they view it primarily as something that kids do. And joining a service overrun by horny teenagers is probably not something that really appeals to them.

Just as Twitter which is mostly populated by technology enthusiasts, geeks, bloggers and various online personalities sharing byte sized chunks of information in real time does not appeal to "normal" people like my students, or my family. Perhaps not until it reaches a critical mass of some sort.

You see, no one is going to listen to me and join the social service I like. I'm a geek and I get excited about all kinds of online stuff that is absolutely irrelevant to most people. So they tune out my ravings about Twitter just as they tune me out when I talk about Linux, open source, ruby on rails or web standards. If I like it, it must be some cryptic geeky stuff.

However if they find about it from their friends or coworkers, they will be much more receptive. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually a very interesting question. But I don&#8217;t think this is an age thing. Every semester I mention Twitter in my CMPT 109 class and meet a sea of blank stares. They are completely uninterested.</p>
<p>Ever since Twitter came out, I have been trying to get my brother (4 years younger) and my cousin (2 years older) into it. I send them invitations every once in a while and mention it often, but they just don&#8217;t seem to be interested at all. They are more into Facebook and/or Myspace and that&#8217;s where they have their &#8220;communities&#8221;. In fact, my cousin only joined Facebook last year or so - after it was open to general public for a while and built critical mass of contacts.</p>
<p>Here is an interesting case study - a Polish Facebook clone nasza-klasa.pl is extremely popular amongst the 40+ crowd for some reason. Several of my family members (aunts, uncles, etc..) were on that network long before I joined it, and those who were not, were talking about it. That network seems to have built a critical mass of members in that age group and suddenly became very attractive to them - allowing older people rekindle old high-school friendships, find former co-workers and etc. They are not using it to keep track of their kids, but rather to build their own social networks, share pictures and etc.</p>
<p>Why parents you talked about don&#8217;t care about Myspace? I guess they don&#8217;t see it&#8217;s value - they view it primarily as something that kids do. And joining a service overrun by horny teenagers is probably not something that really appeals to them.</p>
<p>Just as Twitter which is mostly populated by technology enthusiasts, geeks, bloggers and various online personalities sharing byte sized chunks of information in real time does not appeal to &#8220;normal&#8221; people like my students, or my family. Perhaps not until it reaches a critical mass of some sort.</p>
<p>You see, no one is going to listen to me and join the social service I like. I&#8217;m a geek and I get excited about all kinds of online stuff that is absolutely irrelevant to most people. So they tune out my ravings about Twitter just as they tune me out when I talk about Linux, open source, ruby on rails or web standards. If I like it, it must be some cryptic geeky stuff.</p>
<p>However if they find about it from their friends or coworkers, they will be much more receptive. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>Comment on is social media really an &#8220;us&#8221; vs. &#8220;them&#8221;? by EPORIA</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/06/16/is-social-media-really-an-us-vs-them/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>EPORIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Closed minds that see such options as “theirs” and “ours”, limit their online relationships with others...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Closed minds that see such options as “theirs” and “ours”, limit their online relationships with others&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on r u 2 old? by is social media really an &#8220;us&#8221; vs. &#8220;them&#8221;? &#171; transform&#8230;redefine&#8230;discover</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/r-u-2-old/#comment-268</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a small exchange between 3 moms (myself included) to a group conversation with many parents. In a previous post on texting, the generation gap is obvious…new technologies sometimes elude people who are not interested in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a small exchange between 3 moms (myself included) to a group conversation with many parents. In a previous post on texting, the generation gap is obvious…new technologies sometimes elude people who are not interested in [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on more on plurk by eac</title>
		<link>http://enzaac.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/more-on-plurk/#comment-267</link>
		<dc:creator>eac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, my first day away from plurk (Sunday) made me realize that I do enjoy plurk but it is frightening to return after being away. Inordinate amount of replies, lots of interesting, nonsensical, silly, maybe an occasional informative post but for the most part, social networking epitomized. 

I was reading a &lt;a href="http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9961782-2.html?tag=cnetfd.mt" rel="nofollow"&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; this morning that described plurk as "whacked-out"...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, my first day away from plurk (Sunday) made me realize that I do enjoy plurk but it is frightening to return after being away. Inordinate amount of replies, lots of interesting, nonsensical, silly, maybe an occasional informative post but for the most part, social networking epitomized. </p>
<p>I was reading a <a href="http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9961782-2.html?tag=cnetfd.mt" rel="nofollow">post</a> this morning that described plurk as &#8220;whacked-out&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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